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Ben DOW Family Photo Mystery - Little Girl?

LesN
167 posts
May 16, 2008
7:19 AM
We know the photo of the Benjamin DOW family contains the following adults (left to right):

http://www.tampicohistoricalsociety.citymax.com/albums/album_image/46283/411894.htm

Daisy & Lauer DOW (m 1893)

Benjamin DOW (Father of Lauer, Pleasant, Zilla)

Louvilla & Pleasant DOW (m 1892)

Sarah DOW (Mother of Lauer, Pleasant, Zilla)

Zilla and Will SHERE (m 1895)

We also know the dates of their children:

Daisy & Lauer - Durrell b Sept 1897

Pleasant & Louvilla - Olive b Sept 1893, Orville b April 1895, Viva b August 1897

Zilla & Will - Temple b 1897 (m?,d?)


If Durrell is in this photo (on Daisy's lap), it would put this photo in the late spring or early summer of 1898 (leaves are in the trees.) BUT...Where are the other 2 babies born in 1897? They could be in the house sleeping; however, I am rethinking the date of this photo.

If the photo were taken when or slightly after Will and Zilla married (June 12, 1895), then:

Olive, dau of Pleasant and Louvilla, would have been about 2 years old and Orville would have been a baby. But, Durrell, Temple and Viva (all born in 1897) would not have been born at the time of the photo).

Who then would the little girl near Will and Zilla be??

I now think the little girl is Darlene SHERE, dau of Will and his first wife Charity nee WILSEY, b April 1894.

Thus, the child on Daisy's lap would have been her nephew Orville DOW, the girl next to "Grandma Sarah" would have been Olive DOW and the girl next to Will & Zilla would have been Darlene SHERE.

Les

Denise
255 posts
May 16, 2008
9:03 AM
Les,

I have included the above information under the photo:


Home of Benj. Dow 1897 in the DOW Family Album.

Denise

Debra
12 posts
May 16, 2008
6:07 PM
I think Nellie was born in 1894- but I will have to look for sure- if that is Olive standing next to Sarah and she was born in 1893 that would put the little girls approximately a year or less apart so it makes sense that it would be Nellie- do you agree?
LesN
171 posts
May 17, 2008
5:52 AM
Yes, I have her as Darlene SHERE, who went by the name of "Nellie." She was the dau of William & Charity nee WILSEY SHERE. Charity died May 21, 1894. Darlene "Nellie" SHERE was born less than a month earlier, April 28, 1894.

Les

Debra
13 posts
May 17, 2008
9:52 PM
I think she was Nellie Darlene_ I know we always called her Nellie. I think she is the mystery girl- if the year was 1897 then it fits!
LesN
172 posts
May 18, 2008
5:09 AM
Hi Debra,

Ah, so we have another "mystery" to be solved.....

From her mother's obit (Charity nee WILSEY) written up in the Bureau County Times - June 8, 1894 (when Darlene/Nellie have been a little over 1 mo. old) she is listed as "Darlene":

From the Bureau County Times - June 8, 1894
Mrs. William Shere passed away May 21, 1894, at almost 9:00 am. She was born in Orange County, N.Y. June 10, 1856 and so attained the age of 37 years 11 months and 11 days. She had three brothers and five sisters, all of whom survive her. The family consisted of two sons and two daughters: Clarence and Albert, May and Darlene. Mrs. Shere took sick about October 1st with soreness of the throat which continued to grow worse from day to day until at last she was bed ridden. Her children ministered to her daily, which was a great comfort to her. She showed heroic patience and characteristic concern for the well being of others more than for herself. She gave repeated assurance that she rested on Jesus for future salvation and desired to depart and be at rest. Her funeral services were held at the church in Yorktown, at 2 O'clock, Wednesday afternoon May 26th conducted by Reverend Fahr, between three and four hundred people attending. The pallbearers were: Marion Ladue, Werner Cox, Sherman Comings, William Lane, and William Forward. The long procession went to the Fairfield Cemetery on foot. Thus, we laid to rest on that beautiful day in May one of that beloved pair, whose remembrance on account of their jovial friendship, generous hospitality, honesty, thrift and interested helpfulness to all in need of help, is entwined with grateful reminiscence in the memory of people in the Bureau and Henry Counties. The thanks of the family are rendered to many friends.

LesN
173 posts
May 18, 2008
5:42 AM
I just checked the Social Security Death Index and it has a listing of "Nellie HEINTZELMAN" b April 28, 1894, d December 1966, Last residence: Coquille, OR. SS# issued in Indiana

It also has a listing of "Roy HEINTZELMAN" b March 2, 1891, d July 1970, Last residence: King, WA SS# issued in Washington

Also listed in the SSDI were:

Vernon HEINTZELMAN b August 14, 1915, d June 1970 (place not specified), SSDI issued Illinois

Bernardine A. KUNKLE (I have her as Berndeline Adella), b August 5, 1914, d May 17, 1988, Last residence: Coquille, OR

Viola D. BUCKLEY (I have her as Viola DARLENE), b February 26, 1918, d June 16, 1995, Last residence: Coquilla, OR

So, it is interesting that the SSDI has her lsited as Nellie; however, her daughter's middle name in Darlene.

One would expect the SSDI to have her "real" first name listed correctly, but...

Les

Debra
14 posts
May 18, 2008
5:44 AM
Oh Gosh- it is another mystery! I had not realized that she was only a month old when Charity died. I ma not sure if Sharol Molland her granddaughter posted an obit for her on this site or not.
Even is she did I am not sure if her family would have known her correct name either but I will look for it.
Debra
15 posts
May 18, 2008
5:53 AM
I did not find an obit but Sharol referred to her as Nellie Darlene in her post in the "Shere" mesages.
I think you will p[robably have to find a birth certificate to find out for sure.
My Mom was born Elizabeth Fern but was called Fern all of her life. A name she did not like I might add.
LesN
174 posts
May 18, 2008
6:09 AM
And another mystery crops up....Sharol's posting in the SHERE message thread says that Roy's real name was David LeRoy HEINTZELMAN but "Roy was the name he went by." The SSDI, as noted above, has Roy HEINTZELMAN listed, but no David or LeRoy that matches......so, I guess we cannot trust the SSDI to be fully accurate with the name.

Interesting.....

Denise
258 posts
May 18, 2008
8:02 AM
Here's some links for quick reference if you need them:
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Adella 1988 Bernadine Adella Kunkle Memorial Card (submitted by Sharol Heintzelman
Molland)


1970 Vernon Edward Heintzelman Obit (submitted by Sharol Heintzelman Molland

Shere Message Thread



Last Edited on May 18, 2008 8:05 AM

Debra
16 posts
May 18, 2008
1:33 PM
Thanks Denise- I still have not found anything that confirms her name one way or the other.
Sharol41
8 posts
May 20, 2008
8:38 PM
Deb,

Everything we were ever told about Grandma is that her name was Nellie Darlene. I have emailed my cousin Judy's daughter Paula this morning. She may have found some documents or articles left behind after her grandmother, Viola Buckley, passed away. Paula and her husband bought Vi and Ed's house before Ed passed away, and I know that many of Vi's personal things were still there at that time.

Hopefully, Paula will have something to verify any information on Nellie and Roy Heintzelman.

Also, in regards to the "mystery" girl in the picture, I'm not sure which couple is Will and Zilla. Could you or someone identify which little girl is the focus of interest. Is she the one in the dark dress? Thanks.

Sharol

Last Edited on May 21, 2008 5:55 AM

LesN
176 posts
May 21, 2008
7:40 AM
Hi Sharol,

Regarding the DOW photo, the adults, from the left are:

Setting - Wife Daisy Dean nee HOGEBOOM DOW
Standing - Husband Lauer Jones DOW

Setting - Father Benjamin Franklin DOW

Standing - Wife Louvilla nee SCOTT DOW
Setting - Mother Sarah Ellen nee JONES DOW
Standing - Husbuand Pleasant Luther DOW

Standing - Wife Zilla Adelle nee DOW SHERE
Setting - Husband William E. (Ellis?) SHERE


Les

Last Edited on May 21, 2008 7:41 AM

Sharol41
9 posts
May 21, 2008
9:15 AM
Les,

I have just received an email from Paula, who would be Nellie's great granddaughter. Paula has confirmed that she has a lot of information from Nellie's Bible and other items and family obituaries she and my aunt had saved.

She is going to be working on downloading what she has to send me.

Her grandfather, Ed Buckley was also working on genealogy at one time, and she thinks he may have a lot of information to share, too.

Thanks,
Sharol

Denise
268 posts
May 21, 2008
1:03 PM
The Genealogy Gods are smiling down on us!!! ;?)
Debra
18 posts
May 21, 2008
5:32 PM
Sharol_ I knew we had always called her Aunt Nellie- why she was listed as Darlene in her mother's obit will probably always be a mystery- maybe when whom ever the information was given to for printing did not hear Nellie Darlene-just Darlene or accidently omitted Nellie when typing- good that we know now!

Last Edited on May 21, 2008 5:32 PM

Debra
19 posts
May 21, 2008
5:34 PM
Yes Denise the genealogy Gods are smiling- and that is a good thing!
Debra
22 posts
May 21, 2008
7:37 PM
Sharol- the little girl in question is the one in the dark dress- we think that it is Nellie.
Sharol41
10 posts
May 21, 2008
8:58 PM
Thanks for clarifying which little girl she is in the picture.