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ekyjim

1 post
22-Jul-2008
7:29 PM
My name is Jim Neill, and I am trying to find any information I can for my grandfather Edgar Raymond Swan. He was born 01/04/1902 in Tampico, IL, married my grandmother Alice Swan in 1930, and passed away 04/28/1964 in Dyer IN.

I have had zero luck finding any information to fill in the gaps between these dates, and can find nothing about his family.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Jim

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Denise
619 post s
22-Jul-2008
8:56 PM
Hi Jim,
Let me check our files at the historical society. I'll post back here or email you if I find anything. Was Alice's maiden name also SWAN? Do you have either of their obits? Were Edgar's parents' names: Harvey (Jonnsatta)& Nellie?


Denise
Family History Coordinator
Tampico Area Historical SocietyDenise
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Last Edited on 22-Jul-2008 9:35 PM

MiloS

13 post s
23-Jul-2008
6:13 AM
1910 Federal Census
Name: Nellie L Swan
Age in 1910: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Sweden
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois
Spouse's Name: Harvey J
Home in 1910: Galva, Henry, Illinois
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harvey J Swan 46
Nellie L Swan 33
Charles L Swan 9
Max W Swan 8
Ray E Swan 5
Morris H Swan 2
Lois M Swan 1 2/12

1920 Federal Census:
Name: Nellie L Swan
Home in 1920: Galva, Henry, Illinois
Age: 43 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Johnsatta H
Father's Birth Place: Sweden
Mother's Birth Place: Indiana
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 409
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Johnsatta H Swan 56
Nellie L Swan 43
Charley L Swan 19
Max W Swan 18
Ray E Swan 15
Morris H Swan 12
Lois M Swan 10
Frances E M Swan 4 7/12
Charley Swanson 50

1930 Federal Census:
Name: Ray Swan
Home in 1930: Galva, Henry, Illinois
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Birthplace: Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ray Swan 25
Ann Swan 24
Harold Swan 4
Donovan Swan 3

Denise

330 post s
24-Jul-2008
1:01 PM
I RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING EMAIL FROM JIM:Denise:

I just found out (and by just I mean I called my mother right after I saw this e-mail) that my great-grandmother's name was Amadore Searcy Swan, and my mom thinks my great-grandfather's first name was also Edgar (mom said she never saw and they didn't talk about him much), as was my grandfather's. The only other information my mom had was Amadore ran the laundry at the mine store. I don't know if Tampico was a mining area, so this could in an entirely different area.

Thanks for the reply and your time in researching this. I have not been able to get started with any information on the Swan side of the family.

Jim
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This is so strange because I have been doing some intense research on a Howell Searcy (d. Tampico 1929). His daughter was Amadon Searcy, b. 1874 in MO
Based on the information you gave me in your last email, I have followed them through 1910 & then Amadore up to 1939:
Name: Amadore S Swan
Birth: abt 1874 - Missouri
Departure: Southampton, England
Arrival: 13 Sep 1937 - New York, New York
Line 18 - Amadore S. Swan, age 63, Date & Place of Birth: May 25, 1874, Cape Girardeau- Mo.403954, ADDRESS in US: 43 Carrol St,., Hammond, IN

Name: Amadore Swan
Birth: abt 1875 - Missouri
Residence: 1900 - Hahanaman, Whiteside, Illinois
1900 United States Federal Census about Amadore Swan
Name: Amadore Swan
Home in 1900: Hahanaman, Whiteside, Illinois
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Missouri
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Race: White
Occupation:
Household Members: Name Age
Edward[sic] R.Swan 25, b. May, 1875, married 2 years, b. Canada,parents b. NY, farm laborer, Immigrated 1878,Naturalized
Amadore Swan 25, wife, b. May, 1875, married 2 yrs.0 children, parents b. MO


1910 United States Federal Census about Amadore M Swan
Name: Amadore M Swan
Age in 1910: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Missouri
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Kentucky
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky
Spouse's Name: Edgar R
Home in 1910: Joplin Ward 8, Jasper, Missouri
Marital Status: Married - 4 children/3 living
Race: White
Gender: Female
Household Members: Name Age
HOH: Edgar R Swan 34
Wife: Amadore M Swan 30
Dau: Helen M Swan 9, b. IL
Son: Edgur[sic] R Swan Jr. 8, b. IL
Son: Harrold R Swan 3, b. MO

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Amadore Swan
Name: Amadore Swan
Arrival Date: 12 May 1939
Birth Year: May 25, 1874
Age: 65
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Georgic
Search Ship Database: Georgic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Missouri
Line: 14
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_6329
Birth Location: Missouri
Birth Location Other: Cape Girardeau
Page Number: 41
Destination: 46 Carroll Street, Hammond, IN

I'll keep looking and report back. This will be really exciting if this turns out to be the same SEARCY family we are researching. Howell Searcy is the only confederate soldier buried in our cemetery.
Denise

Last Edited on 24-Jul-2008 1:59 PM

ekyjim

2 post s
24-Jul-2008
3:48 PM
Denise:

I talked to my mother again and she said that my grandfather had a sister, Helen and a brother, Harold. Helen went on to fame as a singer; her stage name was Gypsy Nina. Anyway, they did live in Hammond, IN (my mom's family moved in with them for a time).

Administrator
Denise
622 post s
24-Jul-2008
4:13 PM
Soooo, we can be fairly certain that the 1910 census posted here is YOUR family, correct?
1910 United States Federal Census about Amadore M Swan
Name: Amadore M Swan
Age in 1910: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Missouri
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Kentucky
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky
Spouse's Name: Edgar R
Home in 1910: Joplin Ward 8, Jasper, Missouri
Marital Status: Married - 4 children/3 living
Race: White
Gender: Female
Household Members: Name Age
HOH: Edgar R Swan 34
Wife: Amadore M Swan 30
Dau: Helen M Swan 9, b. IL
Son: Edgur[sic] R Swan Jr. 8, b. IL
Son: Harrold R Swan 3, b. MO

What about the trips overseas by Amadore? Do you have relatives overseas?
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Denise
Family History Coordinator
Tampico Area Historical Society

Last Edited on 24-Jul-2008 4:14 PM

ekyjim

3 post s
24-Jul-2008
5:01 PM
Denise:
I think it looks good. I don't know of any relatives living overseas, but I mentioned that Helen was a singer, who performed under the stage name Gypsy Nina. She performed quite a bit in England. In fact, my sister has a journal Gypsy wrote (you can bet now I'm going to want to look at it) about performing overseas at the beginning of World War II. She died December 26, 1939, which doesn't coincide with Amadore's trip, but if she went to visit Helen, that could explain why she went overseas.

Thank you so much.

ekyjim

4 post s
24-Jul-2008
6:01 PM
Denise:
OK, so I talked to my mom again (3 times in one day has her a bit overwhelmed! Thank goodness for free cell phone long distance.)

Amadore's trip in 1939 was to bring Helen (Gypsy) home. Everyone was trying to get out of Europe, and I suppose that Amadore went over to help Helen get everything back in the states.

Helen was injured on the trip back when a suitcase fell from on overhead compartment and hit her in the head. The doctor who checked her out said everything was OK, but she died 6 months later due to the injury.

As far as the house in Hammond, IN, mom said her, her dad and pregnant mom moved in with Amadore there in 1936.

Thanks again

Denise

331 post s
24-Jul-2008
8:54 PM
Finally found his parents & siblings in 1920 - mistranscribed as "Snow"
1920 United States Federal Census about Edgar R Swan
Name: Edgar R Swan
Home in 1920: Liberty, Clay, Missouri
Age: 44 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Amadae M
Father's Birth Place: New York
Mother's Birth Place: New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 316
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edgar R Swan 44
Amadae M Snow 44
Helen M Snow 19
Harold R Snow 13
ekyjim

5 post s
25-Jul-2008
3:48 AM
Denise:
That's them! My mom was born in Liberty, MO in 1934. That's where my grandfather Edgar met my grandmother Alice (kelly) Swan. They were married in July 1930.

Again, Denise, thank you so very much. I appreciate all the work you've done.

Jim

Administrator
Denise
623 post s
25-Jul-2008
8:32 AM
Glad to be of help, Jim. I'll continue following this as time permits. I'm anxious to see if this family links to "our Howell Searcy." Just too coincidental, but continue to try to verify it. Let me know if there is something more specific you want me to look for. As you probably know, the census records are only posted through 1930, but there are other records of events available.

These links may be helpful to you:
Clay Co. Archives & Historical Library
http://www.claycountyarchives.org/
Contact Information
Telephone
816-781-3611
Street Address
210 E Franklin St, Liberty, MO 64068
Mailing Address
P. O. Box 99, Liberty, MO 64069
Electronic mail
General Information: info@claycountyarchives.org

MO State Genealogical Society
http://www.mosga.org/
Missouri State Genealogical Association
P.O. Box 833 Columbia, MO 65205-0833
email: mosga@mosga.org

SWAN births: http://www.mosga.org/surnames/s.html

MO Genealogy & History
http://www.mosga.org/links.shtml
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Denise
Family History Coordinator
Tampico Area Historical Society

Last Edited on 25-Jul-2008 8:57 AM

Anna

18 post s
25-Jul-2008
11:33 AM
Swan seems to be an Swedish last name= Svan. If you have anything on the emigrants further back I might check it on Emigranten Populär.


There are over 300 Svan´s in the Emigranten Populär.

Last Edited on 25-Jul-2008 11:10 PM

Denise

332 post s
26-Jul-2008
7:12 AM
Anna - YIPES! Lots of those Svens, eh? Thank you for your kind offer. If others can fill in any blanks further back, please post. Thanks,
Denise
Anna

19 post s
30-Jul-2008
12:58 PM
Hi Denise. Just the last name Svan is there only those numbers I wrote, but if I search for Svensson (a "wrong" english translation often becomes Swanson or the first name Sven becomes Swan)there is over 35 000 people.

there is about 100 people with the first name Svan that is recorded on Emigranten and around 20 000 with the first name Sven.

Not much help in this case though.

ekyjim

6 post s
3-Aug-2008
5:46 AM
Anna:
Thank you. Sounds like a needle in a haystack, if you ask me. B-)
 

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